@Justiciar Thorien 

Yeah youre right. That would be best for a Loremaster type character. Summoning old Heroes to write down their Storys. Im so Confused now i need to remake my Main. Skyrim seems to use the First Method since the Undead can Thank you as they die again. But wouldnt it be possible to raise a body with pure Magic energy and it would have to be strong enough for them to understand basic Orders which would go hand in hand with very very basic Speech ability. which explains thr groaning and Thanks at death. I dont want the Character to deal with Deadra. so if my options are be Evil or use a Deadra then i dont know what to do. He comes from a place where necromancy is not banned He has no cultural bindings to not using the Dead. He isnt out for power or Immortality. He uses it as a Tool thats it. since the Spirit talking is not canon i dont know what to do. He is clearly not Evil but if something he sees as just another Magic School is Evil then all i cam do is scrap my Main :(

Also with Souls. How is it acceptable to trap a white Soul but not Black Souls. Black Souls go to the Soul Cairn. But white souls still would go on into Aetherius and you just destroy the soul why? Because its just a wolf, Troll or a Giant? Thats still a living being. the whole system is screwed up. how could any mage be considered good when they use white souls? oh summoning a soul into a dead body is bad but destroying the Afterlife of a "lower" life form is A-OK huh?

Because necromancy like all magic isn't "evil", it is just another application of magic. There's a line in Dragon Age Inquisition that works perfectly here and while I can't remember it perfectly the general idea was "Is their magic any more evil then your sword?" for context the character; Mother Giselle, was talking to a soldier who was injured and wanted the mages to stay away from him. Magic is a tool, it can be used for both good and bad, to kill or save people. If necromancy is evil then so is Illusion and Destruction since they are used to manipulate and cause harm. 

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Skyrim seems to use the First Method since the Undead can Thank you as they die again. But wouldnt it be possible to raise a body with pure Magic energy and it would have to be strong enough for them to understand basic Orders which would go hand in hand with very very basic Speech ability. which explains thr groaning and Thanks at death.

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Apparently there is a way to raise undead with just pure energy, and such a technique doesn't even require them to be able to talk - you can give them orders just with your mind. The necromancers in Skyrim use the first method, most likely because it's the least taxing and the least risky. They just go the easiest way.

[blockquote][b][url=/profile/Vezrabuto]Vezrabuto[/url] said:[/b]

He comes from a place where necromancy is not banned He has no cultural bindings to not using the Dead. He isnt out for power or Immortality. He uses it as a Tool thats it. since the Spirit talking is not canon i dont know what to do. He is clearly not Evil but if something he sees as just another Magic School is Evil then all i cam do is scrap my Main :(

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Speaking to spirits is canon, it's just a somewhat different thing than necromancy. He can use the third method safely. The only issue one can see with this method is using the body, but that's a matter of religious beliefs and cultural customs only.

[blockquote][b][url=/profile/Vezrabuto]Vezrabuto[/url] said:[/b]

 Also with Souls. How is it acceptable to trap a white Soul but not Black Souls. Black Souls go to the Soul Cairn. But white souls still would go on into Aetherius and you just destroy the soul why? Because its just a wolf, Troll or a Giant? Thats still a living being. the whole system is screwed up. how could any mage be considered good when they use white souls? oh summoning a soul into a dead body is bad but destroying the Afterlife of a "lower" life form is A-OK huh?

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Trapping a white soul is okay because the souls of wolves and trolls don't go to Aetherius. They are a part of Nirn and after their death they just dissipate and become a part of the nature, so by using them you don't change anything much. In my opinion even a Lawfull Good fellow can use white souls unless he is a total vegan.

Also, why are you only thinking between good and evil? The world isn't black and white. Neutral is an option too.

[blockquote][b][url=/profile/GoldenFool]Golden Fool[/url] said:[/b]

Because necromancy like all magic isn't "evil", it is just another application of magic. There's a line in Dragon Age Inquisition that works perfectly here and while I can't remember it perfectly the general idea was "Is their magic any more evil then your sword?" for context the character; Mother Giselle, was talking to a soldier who was injured and wanted the mages to stay away from him. Magic is a tool, it can be used for both good and bad, to kill or save people. If necromancy is evil then so is Illusion and Destruction since they are used to manipulate and cause harm. 

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Well, some might see Illusion as evil too, and Destruction, and even Alteration. It depends on what you believe. If anything, a mindless religious fanatic is no less evil than Mannimarco. Magic itself is not evil, but certain ways of its use totally are.

Yes but i read alot on here saying that you either use a Deadra or torment and force the soul back in. I Myself have that same view on it like i Said. Why would i Summon a Deadra if im already most of my time inside crypts, have a natural talent for it and see it like nothing different to the other Schools. I Have no Evil intentions but from what i read on here now im a Evil guy for using a school of Magic. I tried to justify it with the soul being able to resist if it doesnt want like its described in dnd but thats apparently not usable. So im stuck with using the Soul or betraying the character himself and use a Deadra.

 yes i know. my Character is Neutral good. but after reading all this it would mean turning Neutral Evil. i didnt mean going from 100% to 100% evil should have said that.

 Now im so confused with whats canon and what isnt or what is acceptable that i might aswell just delete the profile on the site and start again. everyone says something different and i feel intimidated to even pick one since something gonna be wrong and my own believes are wrong but then theyre ok again. This Sucks im mentaly exhausted

Honestly your interpretation of the lore and your character trumps everything else.

The lore implies that the suffering comes from the necromancer asserting their will over the soul, I take that to mean that it is seperate from the spell itself. So the spell animates the body and then the necromancer takes control. Your character could just not do the second step, so he casts the spell to raise the body and like you previously said this acts as an invitation or request for permission which the soul can chose to accept or deny.

If he is doing everything in his power to prevent suffering then he is far from evil.

These first and the second methods are just the most popular because they are the easiest.

Also I suspect (Idk for sure but don't see why it would be impossible) you can use a soul trapped in a soul gem to raise a body. Like, you soultrap a mammoth and use its soul to raise a zombie. It's not evil, it's perfectly grey. Or maybe you can use a sacrifice (an animal) in a similar way. Which is also grey. In fact I can see even a Neutral Good do something like this if they aren't a complete vegan and won't see the use of a goat's soul as a cruel murder.

You can soultrap draugr and vampires and it won't be evil, maybe it's even good.

Cinjuration isn't evil by itself, it's just that one practicing it must be more thoughtful and careful.

The thing that defines if a character is evil or good is his mindset, not his magic, because the former is what commands the latter. I don't see any problem for a Neutral Good fellow practicing necromancy, he just should be more careful in his ways than your average Skyrim necromancer.

For instance, I have a True Neutral Dunmer gal who studies conjuration and alchemy. She experiments with bodies of Falmer, fellow necromancers and various bandits, soultraps undead and beasts, all for the science. She doesn't kill people for her experiments, but if they attack her first, she doesn't see any issue with using their bodies. She won't harm innocents, doesn't aim for power or immortality, doesn't cause trouble to anyone. She just studies a science. Had this gal been a bit less indifferent, she could even be Neutral Good. I label her True Neutral mostly for her her unwillingness to actively help others, not for her methods. It can work with Neutral Good too.

[blockquote][b][url=/profile/GoldenFool]Golden Fool[/url] said:[/b]

Honestly your interpretation of the lore and your character trumps everything else.

The lore implies that the suffering comes from the necromancer asserting their will over the soul, I take that to mean that it is seperate from the spell itself. So the spell animates the body and then the necromancer takes control. Your character could just not do the second step, so he casts the spell to raise the body and like you previously said this acts as an invitation or request for permission which the soul can chose to accept or deny.

If he is doing everything in his power to prevent suffering then he is far from evil.

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But what soul would be willing to be used in a zombie?

[blockquote][b][url=/profile/GoldenFool]Golden Fool[/url] said:[/b]

Honestly your interpretation of the lore and your character trumps everything else.

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To expand on this, the in game lore is written in such a way as to contradict itself so that multiple interpretations can be made and are just as valid as each other. For instance, the events of Oblivion. From the understanding of  the author of The Oblivion Crisis the crisis was solved by the actions of Martim Septim, however the Thalmor claim it was them who stopped the Oblivion gates. Without having played Oblivion, we would only have these two contradicting opinions of the event and so would have to develop our own understanding of them which may differ from another player's.

Lol, even I don't believe the Thalmor actually stopped the Crisis. They might have closed some gates and somewhat lessened the damage to their land but they didn't stop it completely.

Of course you can always play a character who was born in the woods, never held a book in his life and doesn't know how necromancy can be evil. Sort of like Merril from DA2 doesn't see anything wrong with blood magic. But if you don't want your character to be ignorant, you'll just need to integrate all the sources and be creative.