True. And that's why I said my character will be no saint and he has some lawful evil in him. :P

But still going by the laws which dictate who is good and evil for the public including those bandits and others who commit such acts someone like the one you mention would still be punished and possibly killed if he was caught along with the others. Thus for said community he still remains an element of evil and will be punished as such. Now if he was newly recruited and didn't do anything yet it doesn't mean he wouldn't do (which is not enough to sentence him of course) but even if he had a change of mind and din't do anything and left any criminal activity how could my character know of this? You can't save everyone, you just kill and save what is in front of you accordingly. I mean you can't stop in the middle of a fight and ask them their life story. :P 

It is important though to say that this is more a restriction of game mechanics because everyone in the game will fight to the end and you can't just knock them out, round them up and deliver them to the guards or something but still I wouldn't expect any serious trial...

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He cant possibly Know everything about Necromancy. There probably is a way to imbed a Soul gem into a Body to reanimate it, but no one knows about it. My Character isnt a dumb Sheep only believing his Teachers, He does his own research. thats part of why he is in Skyrim. The Embalment technique of the Old Nords is Fascinating. They are Preserved for Hundreds of Years without decaying. They are also Reanimated 24/7 which in itself is interesting. 

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Depends how learned a necromancer he is. The books are there and an institution like the College of Whispers is likely to have books describing most possible ways of nectomancy, or at least mentioning them. Another question is, even if he doesn't know everything, he must know about the method he uses (otherwise he wouldn't be able to use it). When he drags a soul from Oblivion to raise a zombie, doesn't it feel a bit... off? It certainly would to me. Especially if one or two such zombies raised by others thanked me for killing them. Idk, I would do the best research possible before I attempted raising zombies again after that.

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I cant figure out what Reanimation type to use and how much he knows about the subject.

Since in Skyrim they definitely are consious. So pure Magic might make sense or it might not. if it uses a soul then which soul? where does it come from? I also plan on using Wrathmen. is that wrong? are the Ideal masters even real Deadra. would it be possible to use them without making a contract with the IM.

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I think summoning anything from Soul Cairn (except Durnehviir) requires a contract with the IM. Idk if they are Daedra or something else, haven't done much research about them. Tbh, I don't understand why your character is so against the use of Daedra. Summoning them is not exactly being on their side. You just use them as a tool. Daedra summoning doesn't necessarily imply Daedra worship.

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True. And that's why I said my character will be no saint and he has some lawful evil in him. :P

But still going by the laws which dictate who is good and evil for the public including those bandits and others who commit such acts someone like the one you mention would still be punished and possibly killed if he was caught along with the others. Thus for said community he still remains an element of evil and will be punished as such. Now if he was newly recruited and didn't do anything yet it doesn't mean he wouldn't do (which is not enough to sentence him of course) but even if he had a change of mind and din't do anything and left any criminal activity how could my character know of this? You can't save everyone, you just kill and save what is in front of you accordingly. I mean you can't stop in the middle of a fight and ask them their life story. :P 

It is important though to say that this is more a restriction of game mechanics because everyone in the game will fight to the end and you can't just knock them out, round them up and deliver them to the guards or something but still I wouldn't expect any serious trial...

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Killing a bandit and making his soul suffer after death are two different things. Killing him may be justified because overwise he would kill you, but making his soul suffer sfter he is aready dead is something entirely else. And who exactly gave your character the right to judge others and decide what they deserve?

Well he did his research i only need to pick a way of reanimation. I like the pure magical one. Since he is talented and magic Schools are man made how about i raise them with Conjuration. Using my Magicka as Fuel and a bit of Restoration to give them a consiouns so they know friend from foe and so on. That explains the Thanking and due to the sheer Amount of Stress the Magicka puts on the body it turns to Ash. Maybe train a bit under an Arkay priest for cutting the soul remains from the body. Then i Have not to deal with what soul comes from where etc. Do you think thats plausible? 

I would make it so he knows of the Other ways of Raising Dead But goes out of his way to use the harder version to no Disturb the Souls. Keeping him a pretty Good guy in my eyes.

 Oh and He really dislikes the Deadra because His Homeland was close to being Destroyed through Dagon, He doesnt trust them. You Maybe had this Random encounter in Skyrim where a Rogue Mage Summons a Flame Atronach which then Turns on him. But i could see him using the Cairn Summon since he could control them. He is a expert in Fighting undead. Sunfire, Turn Undead he always carries a Silver Sword (eventhough he really is not proficient with it) in the possibility of the Undead turning on Him. better to be overprepared and play it safe than to get caught with youre pants down.

He doesnt hate them, he just does not trust them. He also does not think less of other people for using them, Hell his Wife uses them. 

But what about Enchanting. So White Souls are completly fine since the soul wouldnt have an Afterlife anyway right?

Huh. Restoration cannot give consciousness. Most it can do is heal the body. If you use the heal undead spell, that is. No kind of magic can create a sentient mind. Lol. I'm not even sure the gods can do that. Good thing that the zombies don't need consciousness. Your magic commands them, so they'll know your enemy is their enemy. Also, game mechanics is a thing.

Learning from a priest of Arkay is a cool idea. There is even a priest (Runil) who also happens to be a former Thalmor mage and specializes in Conjuration. 

I can understand one's dislike of Daedra. My main doesn't like them either, dealing with Oblivion feels unclean to him. But that's probably due to his upbringing. Someone else (a Dunmer for instance) wouldn't share such feelings.

A silver blade would never hurt)))

well then i'll just pour my Magicka into them to power them and ignore what they say. I didnt mean to give them a mind like a god. what i was thinking was reanimating them so far that they had basic brain funtion. you know something like a cave man. it was meant to justify them saying things. 

it would screw with my head if i controlled a Meat puppet which should just be that a lifeless puppet which then thanks me after death. that would make me rethink alot about my craft.

And what do you mean a Silver Blade would never hurt? it literally says "Especially effective against Undead". 

ok scratch the restoring brain function i just stumbled upon this: 

In reading "Corpse Preparation" and "On Summoning Skeletons" we discover two things. Firstly, that a minions intelligence and ability to follow/take orders is depending on the corpse and it's condition. (A reanimated animal or a badly injured/rotting corpse cannot follow orders as well as a fresh human corpse or skeleton). In other words, a reanimated minion's intilligence is dependant on the intilligence level of the corpse being reanimated: animals will be about as useful and intilligent as guard dog. 

This explains the talking 

Well, the draugr say things and shout Shouts at you, all while the part of their soul that is their personslity is technically missing. I attribute it to something like residual energy that remains in the body, it might even create a tiny imprint of the personality, while the soul isn't really there. Like a ghost, your know. And yes, it definitely reflects their intelligence. Reading books helps a lot, eh?

I meant carrying a silver blade will never hurt, lol. Because who knows where you can encounter a draugr, a vampire or a werewolf.

@Justiciar Thorien - He is not judging them actually, he is using them. This is what he believes, since they caused suffering he doesn't care if their souls suffers a few more minutes since he is using them to do something that will benefit him and those who are regarded as the good people according to the society/laws and he won't be accounted guilty of something of course. Now if they are suffering then so be it, it was their choise to beneffit by doing harm to others so their actions led to meeting my character, talk about luck.. :D

My character is no saint but no devil either he is somewhere in between he knows that what he is doing is causing suffering it is temporary though and he uses necromancy only if push comes to shove. His world view is that power reigns supreme, no matter what during history only those with power managed to survive long enough to tell the tale so if he has to get his hands a bit dirty in order to survive he will do it but he will never go overboard like killing whoever it is in order to do necromantic research like some crazies we meet in the game and actually most of the time I roleplay it with the second option I mention which is reanimation with deadra "souls" skeltons/summons etc. He could kinda pass as a DnD type witch-hunter type that they deal with the same dark energies they hunt and some of them often go a bit over the top with these dark energies, this guy here though is a guy acting only upon logic and planning and nothing else.

All in all his mentality is if he has to choose a side he will go with the good people because it is convenient and it just "feels" better to him. That doesn't mean though that he will act 100% like the good people against his enemies. That guy is out for blood, the bad guys blood to be exact. You could say he is exploiting the system to some extent but he will never go over the top it's always something in the middle.:D

My intention is to make a more complex character with this type of roleplay. Now, if it will succeed or fail I 'm not sure I might write his progress down to see how it goes.

Well the magic the Dragoncult used was never Documented. It has to be very very high level Magic. Since the Draugr offer up their Life Force to the Dragonpriest and then restore it on their own. It is almost like they are still Alive. You just reminded me that they do Actually talk in the Old Nord Language. Mabe its a very low form of Lichdom? 

Oh ok :D