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• Matt Feeney the New Guy

  

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  April 30, 2016

  "...as language without exertion is dead witness." How very Redguard this quote is ;)

  "...as language without exertion is dead witness." How very Redguard this quote is ;)
• Paws

  

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  April 30, 2016

  The lore is chock full of beauties. Even if it is obscure and the overall concept of a book is lost, there are some great quotes which are simply worth sharing and dwelling upon. That is one of my favourites. But I'd like to hear other people's favourites. Is it worthy of its own discussion?

  The lore is chock full of beauties. Even if it is obscure and the overall concept of a book is lost, there are some great quotes which are simply worth sharing and dwelling upon. That is one of my favourites. But I'd like to hear other people's favourites. Is it worthy of its own discussion?

• Exuro

  

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  April 30, 2016

  True, except that without words, deeds do not spread well and are forgotten.

  True, except that without words, deeds do not spread well and are forgotten.

• Justiciar Thorien

  

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  April 30, 2016

  The most important thing is to not make them spread too well))

  The most important thing is to not make them spread too well))

• Paws

  

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  April 30, 2016

  But that only matters if the recipient doesn't record or speak, no? If the doer does and needs words, doesn't the deed become less simple goodness and more about ego?

  But that only matters if the recipient doesn't record or speak, no? If the doer does and needs words, doesn't the deed become less simple goodness and more about ego?

• Exuro

  

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  April 30, 2016

  Even if the doer doesn't speak of the deeds and it's the recipient the spreads the word, words are still being used to speak for the action.

  Ideally the act alone would be enough (I hate selling myself), but without good marketing, many great people and ideas have been buried beneath all the noise. Had they, or some else spread the word better, more people would have benefited.

  The deed is the core; the foundation, but without words, the impact is greatly diminished. It is a fine line between sharing and ego; and it is often abused.

  Even if the doer doesn't speak of the deeds and it's the recipient the spreads the word, words are still being used to speak for the action.

  Ideally the act alone would be enough (I hate selling myself), but without good marketing, many great people and ideas have been buried beneath all the noise. Had they, or some else spread the word better, more people would have benefited.

  The deed is the core; the foundation, but without words, the impact is greatly diminished. It is a fine line between sharing and ego; and it is often abused.

• Paws

  

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  May 1, 2016

  In terms of historical value I agree wholeheartedly. Yet on a smaller scale is it important? If the recipient understands the deed and why it is being done, why the need for any words at all?

  In terms of historical value I agree wholeheartedly. Yet on a smaller scale is it important? If the recipient understands the deed and why it is being done, why the need for any words at all?

• Exuro

  

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  May 1, 2016

  I'll agree with that, especially for personal/intimate deeds. It's almost like a secret just for for them.

  The ironic thing is, I don't even like talking, I prefer body language and actions, it's just necessary to spread words to succeed in some aspects of life.

  I'll agree with that, especially for personal/intimate deeds. It's almost like a secret just for for them.

  The ironic thing is, I don't even like talking, I prefer body language and actions, it's just necessary to spread words to succeed in some aspects of life.

• Karver the Lorc

  

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  May 5, 2016

  The First Empire made the Bretons fall into line and convert to the Eight Divines. And yet, even under the yoke of Imperial rule, lesser deities still hold significant sway over the more superstitious Bretons:

  Magnus, “the Magus”: This god of sorcery withdrew from the creation of the world at the last moment, leaving ethereal remains that mortals control in the form of magic. It is said he lends mages his power.

  Y’ffre: This “God of the Forest” is still revered by some Breton huntsmen and farmers. Y’ffre transformed himself into the first of the Ehlnofey, known as the “Earth Bones” or laws of nature, ending the uncontrolled transmutations of mortals who then took human-shaped form and understood their role in the world.

  
  Sheor, the “Bad Man”: Many Bretons fear this god, who is the source of all strife. He is a demonized version of the Nordic Shor or Aldmeri Lorkhan and was born during the dark years after the fall of Saarthal.

  Phynaster: Many Breton mages who emphasize their tainted Elven blood are proud to worship this hero-god, who taught the Altmer the secrets of naturally elongating their lifespan by shortening their walking stride.

  Veneration of these entities is expressly forbidden to Imperials, although study of these heretical idols is encouraged, there is a line between analysis and adoration: a line that shall not be crossed.

  I find it quite interesting, especially the part that Lorkhan is demonized in Bretons´ culture. Maybe because of their elven ancestorship?

  The First Empire made the Bretons fall into line and convert to the Eight Divines. And yet, even under the yoke of Imperial rule, lesser deities still hold significant sway over the more superstitious Bretons:

  Magnus, “the Magus”: This god of sorcery withdrew from the creation of the world at the last moment, leaving ethereal remains that mortals control in the form of magic. It is said he lends mages his power.

  Y’ffre: This “God of the Forest” is still revered by some Breton huntsmen and farmers. Y’ffre transformed himself into the first of the Ehlnofey, known as the “Earth Bones” or laws of nature, ending the uncontrolled transmutations of mortals who then took human-shaped form and understood their role in the world.

  
  Sheor, the “Bad Man”: Many Bretons fear this god, who is the source of all strife. He is a demonized version of the Nordic Shor or Aldmeri Lorkhan and was born during the dark years after the fall of Saarthal.

  Phynaster: Many Breton mages who emphasize their tainted Elven blood are proud to worship this hero-god, who taught the Altmer the secrets of naturally elongating their lifespan by shortening their walking stride.

  Veneration of these entities is expressly forbidden to Imperials, although study of these heretical idols is encouraged, there is a line between analysis and adoration: a line that shall not be crossed.

  I find it quite interesting, especially the part that Lorkhan is demonized in Bretons´ culture. Maybe because of their elven ancestorship?

• Justiciar Thorien

  

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  May 5, 2016

  It's likely. Notice, most of their gods are elven.

  It's likely. Notice, most of their gods are elven.