[blockquote][b][url=/profile/Paws]Paws[/url] said:[/b] Haha, no no, I meant Feldir could have that Ivar the Boneless or Ragnar the Red thing going on. Like, these names aren't always literal but sometimes figurative or metaphorical. But in terms of how history remembers them, those names could seem to us as being actual facts. Ivar really had no bones, Ragnar had red hair and the like. That's all I meant, I have no idea about Feldir's name being anything other than literal. But anyway yes! to the article, would be pretty sweet! :)[/blockquote]

I'll get to it when I can. And true, the Boneless thing, from what I recall, has been spectulated to him being considered a coward, or for having brittle bones, as I recall at least one account of his warriors carrying his ass on their shields. But yeah, in Fate, how one sees a figure, real or otherwise, affects how they act. Such as there being three variants of Vlad the Impaler. One being the courtly and noble ruler, another being a blood crazed, well, Berserker, and the third being, while bloodthirsty and loving impaling people, is a Lancer that is still cordial, and he's from Fate/EXTRA

Though what's interesting is how each sees their legend of Dracula, two of which have it as a Noble Phantasm. Normal Lancer Vlad despises his legacy as a vampire, despite, funnily enough, his character design resembling both Dracula, and his son Alucard, from Castlevania. He alsp will NOT use his Legend of Dracula NP, the only time he ever did was when his Master, who was a fucking NAZI, fused with him and forced him to use it. Oh yeah, Heroic Spirits CAN be fused with humans, they then become Pseudo-Servants, then there are Demi-Servants, wherein Divine Spirits, who are, more often than not, gods and goddesses, fuse with a human in order to walk about and shit. Berserker Vlad revels in being Dracula. And Extra Lancer Vlad, I have no idea

[blockquote][b][url=/profile/Paws]Paws[/url] said:[/b] Or erectile dysfunction, maybe? Ivar must have been so highly strung! Like, all the time. So presumably your Fate would have all these different versions or aspects of Ivar. It does sound very reminiscent of how mythopoeic forces effect the gods, such as the Kyne-bone being all war and storms in the memories and collective unconscious of one group, while being all nature and weather in general for another. It sounds quite and interesting system, and I think DB has chosen the best way for me to pick these various concepts up.[/blockquote]

Possibly, depending on how well known the incarnations all. And yeah, I think Deebs did. Then again, Fate is only part of a wider multiverse, named after the creator, known as the Nasuverse, there you also have True Magic, which is, in basic terms, allows you to, among other things, view, and presumably, travel to, other realities, the Heaven's Feel, IE being able to summon forth Heroic Spirits from the Throne of Heroes (Basically where all the HS's "live", a Servant being, in essence, think of it like a Daedra, if they die, they just get sent back, and its also a copy of them, that gives the original one, a sort of report of what happened. If one were to summon the Heroic Spirit again, its highly unlikely it would be the same one, as very rarely does a HS last past a War, unless they're made into a Familiar. There are five, though it is theorized a Sixth might manifest, True Magics. The fifth is believed to relate to time travel

[blockquote][b][url=/profile/Paws]Paws[/url] said:[/b] Or erectile dysfunction, maybe? Ivar must have been so highly strung! Like, all the time. So presumably your Fate would have all these different versions or aspects of Ivar. It does sound very reminiscent of how mythopoeic forces effect the gods, such as the Kyne-bone being all war and storms in the memories and collective unconscious of one group, while being all nature and weather in general for another. It sounds quite and interesting system, and I think DB has chosen the best way for me to pick these various concepts up.[/blockquote] 

One more thing. Aside from The Root/Akashic Records, which is basically where all souls come from, and return to, and where magic comes from as well, and the Types, which are basically embodiments of the planets, and the Moon, some of whom aren't particulary nice, and Lovecraftian entities which also exist, there is also All The World's Evils. Basically, long ago, in the Middle East, there was a village. Now, this village had a shitty time, as none of their crops were failing, etc. Oh yeah, and the gods, like in the Dawn Era, DID use to commonly live alongside humans, but with the laws of reality being dictated by whichever species is more numerous, and with the gods slowly losing their full power, then they had to become observers. Whereas before reality ran on Magic and Mystery, with the dawn of the Age of Man, Mystery slowly began to fade. 

Then one day, the elders were like "The gods must be pissed at us" so they grabbed a random guy, and were like "This dude is the source for all of the world's evils." and tortured him, carving blashpemous names into his flesh, poking him with pointy sticks, etc, until the dude eventually died of old age, and as his existence had brought peace to his village, he was made a HS. Unfortunately, being just a random asshole and not, say, a demigod, he quickly died when he was summoned for the Third Holy Grail War. The Holy Grail, noticing this dude had SO many wishes that he was the root of All The World's Evils, the Grail granted the long dead villagers' wishes, and he became basically an entity of pure destruction, a corroding mass of mud and mana. Oh yeah, and he corrupted the Grail so, ah, less than heroic Servants can be summoned.

Or erectile dysfunction, maybe? Ivar must have been so highly strung! Like, all the time. So presumably your Fate would have all these different versions or aspects of Ivar. It does sound very reminiscent of how mythopoeic forces effect the gods, such as the Kyne-bone being all war and storms in the memories and collective unconscious of one group, while being all nature and weather in general for another. It sounds quite and interesting system, and I think DB has chosen the best way for me to pick these various concepts up.

Stop trying to make it complicated Chris :p Fate Lore is complicated enough without delving into the Nasuverse as a whole :P

But actually, there some solid similarities between the two scenarios with one of the more fascinating one being the weakening levels of magic. What we see from modern magic in TES is so piss poor in comparison to even things 200 years ago (basically Morrowind vs. Skyrim.) It isn't hard to imagine that magic is weakening or being lost. Same sort of thing in Fate where you have The Age of the Gods, when the Gods literally roamed the earth and magic was essentially empowered by their presence. The world was more Mythical, so Mages were insanely powerful compared to most modern mages.

Then you have legends of God-Killers (Loki, Gilgamesh, Scáthach, etc.) and the rise of humanity, and boom. Magic starts growing weaker. So there are definitely some key notes that make both similar and I'm really aiming to hit those notes and make this accessible for TES or Fate fans who aren't familiar with the other genre. Sounds like I'm doing a solid joke so fa

[blockquote][b][url=/profile/Dragonborn1721]Dragonborn2021[/url] said:[/b] Stop trying to make it complicated Chris :p Fate Lore is complicated enough without delving into the Nasuverse as a whole :P But actually, there some solid similarities between the two scenarios with one of the more fascinating one being the weakening levels of magic. What we see from modern magic in TES is so piss poor in comparison to even things 200 years ago (basically Morrowind vs. Skyrim.) And it isn't hard to imagine that magic is weakening or being lost. Same sort of thing in Fate where you have The Age of the Gods, when the Gods literally roamed the earth and magic was essentially empowered by their presence. The world was more Mythical, so Mages were insanely powerful compared to most modern mages. Then you have legends of God-Killers (Loki, Gilgamesh, Scáthach, etc.) and the rise of humanity, and boom. Magic starts growing weaker. So there are definitely some key notes that make both similar and I'm really aiming to hit those notes and make this accessible for TES or Fate fans who aren't familiar with the other genre. Sounds like I'm doing a solid joke so far :D Edit: I'm in pain because this was typed on mobile...damn this is horrible but there's the reason for any errors.)[/blockquote] 

I guessed that. And yeah. And the Root could be like the Dreamsleeve, with souls being sent in and out of the Root/Spiral/Akashic Records. I do recall, albeit its a Fudgemuppet video, discussing whether or not magic is slowly growing weaker. Kind of like, aside from Fate, in LOTR, where magic is leaving the world

[blockquote][b][url=/profile/Dragonborn1721]Dragonborn2021[/url] said:[/b] Stop trying to make it complicated Chris :p Fate Lore is complicated enough without delving into the Nasuverse as a whole :P But actually, there some solid similarities between the two scenarios with one of the more fascinating one being the weakening levels of magic. What we see from modern magic in TES is so piss poor in comparison to even things 200 years ago (basically Morrowind vs. Skyrim.) And it isn't hard to imagine that magic is weakening or being lost. Same sort of thing in Fate where you have The Age of the Gods, when the Gods literally roamed the earth and magic was essentially empowered by their presence. The world was more Mythical, so Mages were insanely powerful compared to most modern mages. Then you have legends of God-Killers (Loki, Gilgamesh, Scáthach, etc.) and the rise of humanity, and boom. Magic starts growing weaker. So there are definitely some key notes that make both similar and I'm really aiming to hit those notes and make this accessible for TES or Fate fans who aren't familiar with the other genre. Sounds like I'm doing a solid joke so far :D Edit: I'm in pain because this was typed on mobile...damn this is horrible but there's the reason for any errors.)[/blockquote] 

I guessed that. And yeah. And the Root could be like the Dreamsleeve, with souls being sent in and out of the Root/Spiral/Akashic Records. I do recall, albeit its a Fudgemuppet video, discussing whether or not magic is slowly growing weaker. Kind of like, aside from Fate, in LOTR, where magic is leaving the world

[blockquote][b][url=/profile/Dragonborn1721]Dragonborn2021[/url] said:[/b] I mean, I think the decline of magic is something we can visibly see, something that's almost impossible to deny. Who's the most powerful mage we meet in Skyrim (other than Dragon Priests)? I mean its the Dragonborb potentially but other than him...Neloth? Savos Aran? Neither have particularly impressive feats to their name. Ill have to read up more on the Dreamsleeve (and the Root, I tend to draw the line at the Counter Force) but that could be an interesting connection.[/blockquote]

Yeah, cause Nasuverse lore is just...damn. Oh yeah, and if FGO is right, fucking Lovecraftian entities like Nyarholetep exist as well, and here I thought the Beasts were bad. Though, we can all agree, the Counter Force is a dick. Here's the vid

How's Babylonia going for you? I'm on Chapter 20.