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Character Build: Talos Incarnate

Tags: #Character Build Spellsword  #Rank:Bloodworks 
  • Member
    July 6, 2015

    I need to get some more pictures for sure, I personally like reading a lot so walls of texts from others don't bother me but I see how it could hurt my build. I do intend on editing this build to have some pictures later, I just couldn't find a lot, especially of Zurin Arctus.

  • Member
    July 6, 2015

    Thanks!

  • Member
    July 6, 2015

    The extra skill choices are supposed to represent the underrepresented parts of Talos Lore, the idea that Wulfharth and Zurin might actually have been mantled before Lorkhan was, to give Hjalti enough raw power to actually mantle Lorkhan himself. I thought it was a bit different in that it was a kind of a 'heretical' take on being Talos.

  • Member
    July 6, 2015

    The pictures? Yes I need to work on that first, I intend to.

  • Member
    July 6, 2015

    That's exactly what I was going for, in the Mantling Lore section of the build I tried to show that the strain of mantling two different people started to affect Hjalti's mind along with everything else. Mantling Lorkhan certainly didn't help his mental state. I tried to show this subtly by having him have difficulty with referring to himself as an individual and in first person, since I imagine that the strain of his life and everything he did would have seriously affected his mental state. I tried to make him come off as a cynical and strategic emperor, while also having aspects of the elf hating Ysmir Wulfharth, and the powerful battlemage Zurin Arctus.

    The end result could be better though, and I'm going to work on improving based on everyone's constructive criticisms. Especially working on portraying the idea of him being 3 different people better and with less subtlety.

  • July 6, 2015

    I understand where you are coming from mate, the potential is there, add some pictures according to the advice given, and when you mention at the start of a build that it is very lore intensive, stick to the lore, or say this is my impression of what I perceive Talos to be. Necromancy??? please. I did give it a like though, for your effort and obvious talent +1

  • Member
    July 6, 2015

    Thanks, I'll take your advice when I start editing this build after I get some images to make it look better, the Necromancy is supposed to represent the Arctus aspect idea.

  • July 6, 2015

    I google searched those names you mentioned in the art group. Heres what I came up with so far. 

  • Member
    July 6, 2015

    Others touched the somewhat odd choice of skills and well-handled presentation of mantling. I'll focus purely on gameplay and skill presentation. I'll use bulleted list to illustrate those points better.

    • In the description for Conjuration you say "I'd rather deal in the dead than deal with Daedra". This implies 1) dealing with Daedra is a big no for this character and 2) dealing with the dead is not something he/she is proud of and is only a result of not wanting to deal with Daedra. Point 1 doesn't work with your Smithing perks where you pick Daedric smithing - dealing with Daedra. Point 2 doesn't work with your Conjuration perks - mastery of necromancy to the point of keeping permanent thralls. I suggest to rewrite that description.
    • You mention Ward Absorb. With your gear choices and stat spread, wards will quickly deplete your magicka bar and Ward Absorb won't help you there. How did you circumvent that?
    • You have perked Illusion up to Apprentice level but don't have dual casting. Single-cast Apprentice level spells won't work on high level (30+) enemies without potion or vampirism boosts. What spells did you use? 
    • You mentioned using unenchanted sword. I assume it is for Elemental Fury but I didn't notice any mention of shouts in the build. In fact, it is quite a gap for Talos-themed build IMO.
    • How did you use a bow? Its damage will not be awe-inspiring without Overdraw perks but you perk the skill up to Power Shot which leads me to think that it was not used as a fight-opener. It was used in open combat, right? You should mention it in the build.
    • "Whose to tell the difference between the flame and frost of your spells and the flame and frost of your voice." - you only perk shock path in Destruction tree.

    Overall, interesting idea, good grasp of mantling concept and inventive way of tying it into the backstory and Helgen. Your response to criticism is also a big plus. You have my +1, work on it some more, improve presentation and you'll be all set. 

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  • Member
    July 6, 2015

    Thanks, I'll try to find a way to use them in the build, I'm not great with using art and I want to put them in parts where the picture makes thematic sense and not just throw them in there haphazardly.