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Discussion: Psychology

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  • Member
    June 29, 2017

    The Nameless King said:

    I have to say this first it seems like when I reply I get more and more details, which is great, but why not state this at the beginning.

    So how was he in the blades if he is a vampire? Also, joining the Companions would still be different from that archetype, I get that he is a killing tool, but let me ask you this does he need a purpose or does just kill to kill? I ask so I know how to respond correctly.

    No need to call yourself stupid, I just like very detailed things since it helps me understand items and characters. I mean Shadowscale and Blades/Samurai basically have the same concept to an extent, being raised from birth to obey a master and become a killing tool. Also, I get your concept/character now.

    I just seem to leave out details that I either don't remember or I just don't think is important at the time. This was one of those situations where I forgot to add details.

    Again, one of those details I didn't mention. The CoC (who I named "Hides-In-Shadow" (edgy, I know)) accepted Vicente Valtieri's 'gift' and became a vampire. He never cured it so when he had children they were also vampires. Vampire abilities are helpful for an assassin (another tradition is their "side-job" as the Emperor's private assassin, and why my Dragonborn stayed with the Emperor after the White-Gold Concordat) so they never cured it. It eventually passed on to my Dragonborn (who's name is "Walks-In-Darkness" (also pretty edgy)).

     

  • Member
    June 29, 2017

    Ebonslayer said:

    The Nameless King said:

    I have to say this first it seems like when I reply I get more and more details, which is great, but why not state this at the beginning.

    So how was he in the blades if he is a vampire? Also, joining the Companions would still be different from that archetype, I get that he is a killing tool, but let me ask you this does he need a purpose or does just kill to kill? I ask so I know how to respond correctly.

    No need to call yourself stupid, I just like very detailed things since it helps me understand items and characters. I mean Shadowscale and Blades/Samurai basically have the same concept to an extent, being raised from birth to obey a master and become a killing tool. Also, I get your concept/character now.

    I just seem to leave out details that I either don't remember or I just don't think is important at the time. This was one of those situations where I forgot to add details.

    Again, one of those details I didn't mention. The CoC (who I named "Hides-In-Shadow" (edgy, I know)) accepted Vicente Valtieri's 'gift' and became a vampire. He never cured it so when he had children they were also vampires. Vampire abilities are helpful for an assassin (another tradition is their "side-job" as the Emperor's private assassin, and why my Dragonborn stayed with the Emperor after the White-Gold Concordat) so they never cured it. It eventually passed on to my Dragonborn (who's name is "Walks-In-Darkness" (also pretty edgy)).

     

    Man, these characters are so close to the "edge" I am afraid to know the next one's name. It is okay, I was just wondering and any detail you think isn't worth telling is worth telling, unless it just completely useless.

    Now, that makes sense, but I have to ask how did he get by in the blades while being a Vampire? It seems like the Emperor or even the Blades wouldn't want one their ranks or that close.

  • Member
    June 29, 2017

    The Nameless King said:

    Man, these characters are so close to the "edge" I am afraid to know the next one's name. It is okay, I was just wondering and any detail you think isn't worth telling is worth telling, unless it just completely useless.

    Now, that makes sense, but I have to ask how did he get by in the blades while being a Vampire? It seems like the Emperor or even the Blades wouldn't want one their ranks or that close.

    I created these names a few years ago when I was younger. They just stuck since then and I never thought about changing them.

    You mean the CoC or LDB? For the CoC he had both Martin's and Jauffre's trust despite being a bloodsucker, which allowed him some breathing room in the Blades. However, his 'affliction' was known by few outside Cloud Ruler Temple. As for LDB I have no doubts there were some skeptical Blades but the family has faithfully served the Empire for 200 years which is worthy of respect. Their choice of food (this counts for the entire family) was often their marks. Dead people won't miss a few drops of blood. This is one of those details I didn't think was needed to be said unless asked.

     

  • Member
    June 29, 2017

    Ebonslayer said:

    The Nameless King said:

    Man, these characters are so close to the "edge" I am afraid to know the next one's name. It is okay, I was just wondering and any detail you think isn't worth telling is worth telling, unless it just completely useless.

    Now, that makes sense, but I have to ask how did he get by in the blades while being a Vampire? It seems like the Emperor or even the Blades wouldn't want one their ranks or that close.

    I created these names a few years ago when I was younger. They just stuck since then and I never thought about changing them.

    You mean the CoC or LDB? For the CoC he had both Martin's and Jauffre's trust despite being a bloodsucker, which allowed him some breathing room in the Blades. However, his 'affliction' was known by few outside Cloud Ruler Temple. As for LDB I have no doubts there were some skeptical Blades but the family has faithfully served the Empire for 200 years which is worthy of respect. Their choice of food (this counts for the entire family) was often their marks. Dead people won't miss a few drops of blood. This is one of those details I didn't think was needed to be said unless asked.

     

    They sound good, I had to make a pun about how edgy they were.

    Ahh, see now that makes sense.

  • Member
    June 29, 2017

    Well, as I've said on the Goals discussion, Wulf-Blöd, my flagship character, is a khajiit with wolfblood, which curses him to look like a wolf, while hating werewolves - a typical, to fight the enemy, become the enemy situation. I've never before made a heroic character - mine are all assassin/thieves/nazeem murderers. Wulf is a heroic khajiit who uses Resto magic, crossbows and one-handed. his psychology is simple. Force equal to threat. If you're facing a bandit, minimum force. If fighting a dragon, well time to bust out the flaming crossbow bolts! 

    I've enjoyed roleplaying a heroic character - it adds a ton of depth to them.

  • Member
    June 29, 2017

    Wulf said:

    Well, as I've said on the Goals discussion, Wulf-Blöd, my flagship character, is a khajiit with wolfblood, which curses him to look like a wolf, while hating werewolves - a typical, to fight the enemy, become the enemy situation. I've never before made a heroic character - mine are all assassin/thieves/nazeem murderers. Wulf is a heroic khajiit who uses Resto magic, crossbows and one-handed. his psychology is simple. Force equal to threat. If you're facing a bandit, minimum force. If fighting a dragon, well time to bust out the flaming crossbow bolts! 

    I've enjoyed roleplaying a heroic character - it adds a ton of depth to them.

    This may be nit-picking, but I have a couple answers.

    1) Why does a Khajiit have a Nord name, especially with the name Wulf?

    2) How does a Khajiit, a cat, become a Werewolf, a dog? It would be a Werelion instead.

     

    Other then those questions this looks like a cool character, it reminds me a lot Blade. I also know the feeling of always being evil and not good, though I still can't do it.

  • Member
    June 29, 2017

    Well, his mother is a Khajiit. His father, a nordic werewolf. He isn't an actual werewolf - he has wolfblood, cursing him to look like that. In a fit of rage, his father murdered his mother, and renamed the child Wulf-Blöd, a nordic name meaning wolfblood.

  • Member
    June 30, 2017

    Wulf said:

    Well, his mother is a Khajiit. His father, a nordic werewolf. He isn't an actual werewolf - he has wolfblood, cursing him to look like that. In a fit of rage, his father murdered his mother, and renamed the child Wulf-Blöd, a nordic name meaning wolfblood.

    Nords and Khajiit's can't have children together, so that makes no sense. Also, how would you have wolf blood and yet not be a Werewolf? How could a Khajiit look like a Wolf? I mean not to be rude/mean, but your character really makes sense by Lore or even by the biology of TES.

  • Member
    June 30, 2017

    The Blacksmith's Daughter's psychology is the whole essence of her build.  The trauma of losing her family, being a sex slave for some bandits for a time and then being thrust into the dangerous world of Skyrim creates as person who starts out trying to do the right thing but the darker path gets followed more and more because of rage and anger.  She has developed pyromania mostly because she see fire as a cleansing agent that detroys evil.  The thing is this has become something she sees as a battle against evil by being evil (althoguh she would never call it that).  She would call it fighting fire with fire but it ammounts to the same thing.  She has no problems with murder or destruciton as long as the final goal is reached - elimination of the Empire in Skyrim and the destruction of the Thalmor.  If she roasts some bandits along the way so much the better.

    I don't know I guess I have always considered the psychology of character as a major ocnsideration.  It is what makes the role play fun to me.  

    Rabyd One  

  • Member
    June 30, 2017

    Paws said:

    Zonnonn said:

    Awesome idea, King, and for me I think this relies a lot on backstory. We're basically just a collection of moments in the past that make us who we are - decisions and actions that changed perceptions and shaped ideals.

    For example, I played a warrior ages ago who was a bully in childhood, and as he grew up fighting and lording over people it just made sense for him to end up fighting people for a living. But when he got battered by a far more experienced mercenary, he finally found out what it was like to be weak and helpless. It wasn't an instant switch, but that moment and moments after shaped him, and eventually he basically became a paladin, but far less religous.

    What I like to do as well is take moments, like the one above, but in game, and use them to shape a person's psychology. Obviously one thing isn't gonna completely change someone, but I've always thought subtlety in transitions and details was better, so it slowly, gradually altered them a bit.

    It's always a weird sort of suspension of disbelief when examining a character's motivation, backstory, and psychology isn't it? Who looks at a dark, yawning cave and thinks, "hey, imma going in!" And that's not even a double entendre. Or is it?

    However, like your bullied warrior turned paladin, something happened to make our characters look at that gaping hole and think entering sounds like a solid plan. Often it isn't just one thing but a series a of somethings, a causal tree with hard, deep and twisted roots. Finding moments in-game to help define those roots that shape the viney trunk is always more compelling to me too, but we always need that reason why he or she picked up a staff and thought, "I like how this wood feels in my grasp."

    Yeah, the most interesting thing about the psycholgy quesiton for me is why in the heck does a character take up the role of taking risks very few people take. Most people don't want to take one of the risks like the Dragonborn routinely takes repeatedly.  Why?  Well, that can be answered a lot of different ways but there has to be something in the character's head that says - I need or want to go into that cave.  Motivation is a big part of psychology in a character.