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Let's Investigate: The Ring of the Erudite!

• Teccam

  

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  May 24, 2014

  Damn good stuff, sir.

  Thank you for explaining this one properly in a way that I couldn't possibly have done, James. The info about in-combat vs. out-of-combat is especially interesting, because the implications are that the ring is even more effective in-combat (where it effectively triples that base MagickaRateMult) than out of combat. I didn't even think to test it in combat, but yeah, that really does explain it. That, combined with the fact that the ring adds +100 Magicka, makes it arguably the single most powerful item in the game....

  Damn good stuff, sir.

  Thank you for explaining this one properly in a way that I couldn't possibly have done, James. The info about in-combat vs. out-of-combat is especially interesting, because the implications are that the ring is even more effective in-combat (where it effectively triples that base MagickaRateMult) than out of combat. I didn't even think to test it in combat, but yeah, that really does explain it. That, combined with the fact that the ring adds +100 Magicka, makes it arguably the single most powerful item in the game....

• Parabola

  

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  May 24, 2014

  I'm not sure there's an argument to be honest - I can't think of anything else off the top of my head that holds a candle to it. Now if only someone could figure out a way to get the wretched thing without joining the Volkihar ...

  A question does spring to mind for the sake of curiosity - does vampire necromage affect both buffs from the ring?

  Oh and welcome back James!

  I'm not sure there's an argument to be honest - I can't think of anything else off the top of my head that holds a candle to it. Now if only someone could figure out a way to get the wretched thing without joining the Volkihar ...

  A question does spring to mind for the sake of curiosity - does vampire necromage affect both buffs from the ring?

  Oh and welcome back James!

• James

  

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  May 24, 2014

  Thank you very much, it's always a source of happiness being able to contribute to this fine site.

  I can't state with absolute certainty that Necromage boosts the regen but I'm inclined to say that it does since I see no reason why it shouldn't.  I do know for a fact that it buffs the fortify magicka aspect by 25% (total of +125 magicka).

  As for the ring's OPness, it's the single reason why I almost always side with the Volkihar my games.  A very fun use for it is being able to make any character into a viable mage to some degree.  For many situations wearing the ring is equivalent to wearing 200% magicka regen enchantments along with the +100 magicka, even characters in unenchanted heavy armour can make using magic viable.

  P.S.

  Before anyone asks I believe fortify restoration doesn't work, neither enchantment is flagged as being under the 'restoration' school.  While these effects fall under Restoration as a default, typically individual effects must also be classified for fortify potions to take affect.  It's not something I've personaly tested so this may be incorrect but I don't think they work.

  Thank you very much, it's always a source of happiness being able to contribute to this fine site.

  I can't state with absolute certainty that Necromage boosts the regen but I'm inclined to say that it does since I see no reason why it shouldn't.  I do know for a fact that it buffs the fortify magicka aspect by 25% (total of +125 magicka).

  As for the ring's OPness, it's the single reason why I almost always side with the Volkihar my games.  A very fun use for it is being able to make any character into a viable mage to some degree.  For many situations wearing the ring is equivalent to wearing 200% magicka regen enchantments along with the +100 magicka, even characters in unenchanted heavy armour can make using magic viable.

  P.S.

  Before anyone asks I believe fortify restoration doesn't work, neither enchantment is flagged as being under the 'restoration' school.  While these effects fall under Restoration as a default, typically individual effects must also be classified for fortify potions to take affect.  It's not something I've personaly tested so this may be incorrect but I don't think they work.

• Borommakot

  

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  May 24, 2014

  Awesome breakdown, James, thanks for putting this together for us.

  Awesome breakdown, James, thanks for putting this together for us.

• Alastor

  

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  May 24, 2014

  Oh sh**! I've got a lot of reading to do when I get the chance :)

  Oh sh**! I've got a lot of reading to do when I get the chance :)
• Teccam

  

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  May 24, 2014

  Make sure you read James's response in the comments, because he laid down the law on this one!

  Make sure you read James's response in the comments, because he laid down the law on this one!

• Vazgen

  

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  May 24, 2014

  You can qoute him in the post, or add a link to his comment :)

  You can qoute him in the post, or add a link to his comment :)
• Teccam

  

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  May 24, 2014

  Good call, Vaz. I'll go ahead and do that.

  Good call, Vaz. I'll go ahead and do that.

• Alastor

  

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  May 24, 2014

  Haha yeah I skimmed the page and saw that he'd commented with some grect knowledge. Don't know how I missed the entire post.

  Haha yeah I skimmed the page and saw that he'd commented with some grect knowledge. Don't know how I missed the entire post.
• Alastor

  

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  May 25, 2014

  Awesome work here guys. Teccam, that is some dedicated testing man. And James, I'm jelly of your CK skills/access! I actually knew most of this because James had covered it somewhere else (a build's comments??). Needless to say, the Ring of Erudite is a game changer and totally worth the few quests it takes to retrieve it! Tec, I am so down for contributing more posts like these. Let me wrap up my next build and then I'll be a T&T guru with ya ;)

  Awesome work here guys. Teccam, that is some dedicated testing man. And James, I'm jelly of your CK skills/access! I actually knew most of this because James had covered it somewhere else (a build's comments??). Needless to say, the Ring of Erudite is a game changer and totally worth the few quests it takes to retrieve it! Tec, I am so down for contributing more posts like these. Let me wrap up my next build and then I'll be a T&T guru with ya ;)