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How 'Critical Damage' for swords works in Skyrim

• BloodBane

  

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  December 25, 2014

  I have a couple questions regarding this. If this is all true, then How would it apply to a Silver Greatsword/Sword when against undead? And also, would the perk Deep Wounds/Bladesman take affect during a bash attack as well?

  I have a couple questions regarding this. If this is all true, then How would it apply to a Silver Greatsword/Sword when against undead? And also, would the perk Deep Wounds/Bladesman take affect during a bash attack as well?

• BloodBane

  

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  December 25, 2014

  I have done this with a Greatsword and full Deep Wounds 3/3, and both texts seem to show up from time to time when I use the move Great Critical Charge/Silent Roll. But when the text comes up for me in this order:

  Critical Strike on (Insert name here)

  Then 1 second later, the sneak attack bonus damage notification appears after Critical Strike notification.

  I have done this with a Greatsword and full Deep Wounds 3/3, and both texts seem to show up from time to time when I use the move Great Critical Charge/Silent Roll. But when the text comes up for me in this order:

  Critical Strike on (Insert name here)

  Then 1 second later, the sneak attack bonus damage notification appears after Critical Strike notification.

• James

  

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  January 10, 2015

  Silver weapons act as if they are enchanted and add their onus damage after all other calculations; Basically a silver sword does 'x + 20' damage and I don't think there's any way to boost that bonus damage.

  Silver weapons act as if they are enchanted and add their onus damage after all other calculations; Basically a silver sword does 'x + 20' damage and I don't think there's any way to boost that bonus damage.
• BloodBane

  

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  July 11, 2015

  I will be looking into this greatly as soon as possible, but I am on PS3 so I have very unfortunate limitations. From what I do notice though when using a Steel Sword, Silent Roll+Critical Charge, Backstab and Shrouded Gauntles, the Sneak boost applies. And from what I have seen, the Bladesman perks seemed to have an impact on the move's damage as well. I will need to run a couple tests though.

  I will be looking into this greatly as soon as possible, but I am on PS3 so I have very unfortunate limitations. From what I do notice though when using a Steel Sword, Silent Roll+Critical Charge, Backstab and Shrouded Gauntles, the Sneak boost applies. And from what I have seen, the Bladesman perks seemed to have an impact on the move's damage as well. I will need to run a couple tests though.

• BloodBane

  

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  July 11, 2015

  Bladesman does not affect any weapons other than swords. From what I see, Critical Charge has a heavy influence on Bladesman instead of Vise-versa like you stated above. It seems to make a critical strike happen with +50% damage to a Steel Sword (8) then doubles it. so (8*1.5)*2= 24 Critical Damage. I am curious as to how Backstab would roll in with Silent Roll+Critical Charge as a combo.

  My theory: ((4 Steel Sword * 1.5 Bladesman perks at 3/3)*6 Backstab))*2 Critical Charge = 72 Critical Damage. But that honestly does not seem right. But who knows XD

  If my theory applies, then: ((12 Dragonbone Greatsword * 1.5 Deep Wounds)*2 Sneak Attack)) *2 Critical Charge = 72 Critical Damage.

  That would basically tell me that for one more perk, MUCH less materials to craft and MUCH less stamina, a Silent Critical Charge with a Steel Sword will hit the same as a Great Silent Critical Charge from a Dragonbone Greatword. That sounds like pure lunacy though XD

  Bladesman does not affect any weapons other than swords. From what I see, Critical Charge has a heavy influence on Bladesman instead of Vise-versa like you stated above. It seems to make a critical strike happen with +50% damage to a Steel Sword (8) then doubles it. so (8*1.5)*2= 24 Critical Damage. I am curious as to how Backstab would roll in with Silent Roll+Critical Charge as a combo.

  My theory: ((4 Steel Sword * 1.5 Bladesman perks at 3/3)*6 Backstab))*2 Critical Charge = 72 Critical Damage. But that honestly does not seem right. But who knows XD

  If my theory applies, then: ((12 Dragonbone Greatsword * 1.5 Deep Wounds)*2 Sneak Attack)) *2 Critical Charge = 72 Critical Damage.

  That would basically tell me that for one more perk, MUCH less materials to craft and MUCH less stamina, a Silent Critical Charge with a Steel Sword will hit the same as a Great Silent Critical Charge from a Dragonbone Greatword. That sounds like pure lunacy though XD

• BloodBane

  

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  December 5, 2015

  I would like to point something out and this may be a whole entire new finding. IF you take Critical Charge and then Bladesman, or vise versa. I ran this on Patch 1.9 for PS3. it doesn't become a 100% Chance if you have the Charge + Bladesman. It runs on Bladesman's Chances (10%, 15,%, 20%).

  Critical Charge on its own, when used, will always say "Critical Strike! at the top-left corner and the damage would increase severely.

  Once I got Bladesman, it no longer began popping up and seemed to only be dealing double the normal damage of the weapon. When the Critical Strike came up, it dealt the (Critical Damage + 50%) Doubled.

  I would like to point something out and this may be a whole entire new finding. IF you take Critical Charge and then Bladesman, or vise versa. I ran this on Patch 1.9 for PS3. it doesn't become a 100% Chance if you have the Charge + Bladesman. It runs on Bladesman's Chances (10%, 15,%, 20%).

  Critical Charge on its own, when used, will always say "Critical Strike! at the top-left corner and the damage would increase severely.

  Once I got Bladesman, it no longer began popping up and seemed to only be dealing double the normal damage of the weapon. When the Critical Strike came up, it dealt the (Critical Damage + 50%) Doubled.