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• Deleted Member

  
   

  July 25, 2013 1:54 PM EDT

  Based on what evidence?

• Chris

  

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  July 25, 2013 1:54 PM EDT

  I disagree. If he had initiated the challenge he would have had the right but.. He just walked in no warning and bam killed the kid.. But remember NORD tradition is what caused a truce and what helped you win.

• Alduin

  

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  July 25, 2013 1:56 PM EDT

  If a beard makes someone adult I was adult at 13.

  Brains over brawn, especially when ruling a country. Personal strength has very little to do with leading a country.

• Deleted Member

  
   

  July 25, 2013 1:56 PM EDT

  Considering he could have fought, like Hammer fell did, like you said, they pushed the from Cyrodiil. Then they signed a one sided treaty. I call that giving up. I call that surrender. There wouldn't even need to be a Second Great War if Mede would have just finished his job. 

• Alduin

  

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  July 25, 2013 1:57 PM EDT

  In the TES universe, almost everyone can become a god, if he's worshiped enough, he'll get power.

• Chris

  

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  July 25, 2013 1:57 PM EDT

  He was a kid in many ways. HE had just arisen and Ulfric used to be best friends with his father that shows how much Ulfric really holds gallantry and loyalty.

• Deleted Member

  
   

  July 25, 2013 2:00 PM EDT

  You had a full beard at 13? You're a freak, and I don't believe you.  Torygg was a man. In his mid to late twenties probably. 

• Chris

  

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  July 25, 2013 2:00 PM EDT

  Also what did killing High King Toric prove? I mean all he was was the one that kept communes between Cyrodill and skyrim?

• Chris

  

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  July 25, 2013 2:02 PM EDT

  No need to call any one a freak this is a debate not an argument keep the personal things out of this please. No one is here to be your enemy.

• Deleted Member

  
   

  July 25, 2013 2:02 PM EDT

  It was a symbol that Skyrim ruled Empire is weak. 

• Alduin

  

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  July 25, 2013 2:04 PM EDT

  I'm part Scottish.

  And his age doesn't make it any less retarded.

• Deleted Member

  
   

  July 25, 2013 2:05 PM EDT

  I know. I'm arguing for the Stormcloaks, even though the Empire has a better shot of taking down the elves. 

  But, I completely understand where the the Stormclaoks are coming from. I don't think they're wrong. 

• Amras

  

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  July 25, 2013 2:07 PM EDT

  Do not forget the assassination on Emperor Titus Mede II on Skyrim's ground.

  Is this for Empire, Stormcloaks or Thalmor's favor?

  Will Empire not be wreaked by the dead of the Emperor or will that strength the Empire with a new king? 

  Why do Amaund Motierre from the Elder Council want to hired a Dark Brotherhood assassin to kill a Emperor.

  Maybe it's their plan to strengthen the Empire with the Emperor's dead?
  

• Deleted Member

  
   

  July 25, 2013 2:07 PM EDT

  Ow! Lex, ya cut me deep! 

• Deleted Member

  
   

  July 25, 2013 2:09 PM EDT

  You should see a doctor...

  It's not retarded, Skyrim was weak and complacent under Imperial rule. They've thrown away cultural identity and what it means to be Nords. 

  Taking out that symbol isn't retarded. That's what I call a start.  

• Deleted Member

  
   

  July 25, 2013 2:10 PM EDT

  They want a change in Imperial policy, he says it himself. 

• Chris

  

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  July 25, 2013 2:10 PM EDT

  Amond would of been Ulfrics best friend both power hungry bigots.

• Alduin

  

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  July 25, 2013 2:12 PM EDT

  The tradition to kill the High King is retarded.

  Skyrim is weaker now than it was before. Under Imperial rule it was prospering, and the Nords always kept their own culture. untill the deal with Talos, but that's only one (temporary) thing. They should consider themselves lucky.

  Also, I saw a doctor not too long ago. I was healthy, wich suprised almost everyone.

• Henson

  

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  July 25, 2013 2:14 PM EDT

  Killing a weak ruler? What are they trying to copy the Orcs?

• Matt Feeney the New Guy

  

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  July 25, 2013 2:14 PM EDT

  Hmm, but replacing it with the man who has the foresight of a fruit fly ain't a good idea. Ulfric is skilled in short-term planning (politically and in a battle), he's proven that. It's long-term where he suffers (talk to him in Sovngarde).
• Deleted Member

  
   

  July 25, 2013 2:15 PM EDT

  I don't get personal, I don't think. What's straw man about it? I'm not winning or losing, because both the Stormcloaks and Empire are right. 

• Deleted Member

  
   

  July 25, 2013 2:19 PM EDT

  If the Empire did better, Skyrim wouldn't be divided. 

  The Nords are tiered of the crap, and the Empire wants them to deal with more crap. 

  I'd be at my limit too. 

• Deleted Member

  
   

  July 25, 2013 2:19 PM EDT

  Skyrim has a backbone now, which is more than the Empire can say. 

• Wunduniik

  

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  July 25, 2013 2:22 PM EDT

  Well this debate snowballed quickly

  Empire is best Empire. Which isn't saying much. *flies away*

• Deleted Member

  
   

  July 25, 2013 2:22 PM EDT

  ha, I chuckled. Clever. But, think about it. Neither side is wrong. The Empire needs to be united. The Nords have been pushed too much, and it's time to act.