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WiP Character Build: Kiahni the Khajiit

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  • Etch
     
    January 23, 2018

    That makes sense, I guess. Is that why a lot of lore seems to conflict..?

    Also, I'm almost done editing the original google doc to V2. I'm mainly fixing some of her backstory and finishing the 'violence' section, as well as some grammatical fixes.

     

    EDIT: Also, is there a way to add skill points to a character at the start of the game? Her father started to teacher her about Archery as early as seven, and he also taught her a little bit about the dagger. I think she'd at least have filled out some of the skill points by the time she's 21, right? Maybe there's a cheat code..?

     

    EDIT 2: I finished V2! Whoop Whoop!

  • SpookyBorn2021
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    January 23, 2018

    Generally speaking, most TES Lore is framed to closely mimic Real History, where we don't always have first-hand accounts, most of them are mostly up to interpretation and everything is biased. So it's sort of designed to be a little ambiguous, especially when dealing with Deities (who rarely, if ever actually write things down for people to read) and you can never be entirely sure if something is real, a myth, an interpretation or anything in between.

    The Void Nights are a good example. The Khajiit history would probably include it as a fact, the Thalmor did save them and bring back the moons. Imperials would most likely see it as a lie that the Thalmor used to gain more power in the region, and then you'd have individuals with different opinions... Basically, it's not unlikely that you could have a dozen different Sources that all have a different story.

    It's what makes it awesome IMO. But I'm a damn History nerd so :P

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    So, this'll get a bit complicated, but builds here tend to be focused a bit more on Gameplay. They're generally focused on mechanics, 

    Henson's Hashashin is a pretty good example of an older style. It's pretty much all focused on gameplay, combat and perks/equipment/mechanics and any Roleplaying/Backstory would be up to the individual player (more or less). 

    Tysoyaha's Crystal Archer is what I consider a bit of a... 'middle-aged' build (in regards to what he focused on), even if he only released it recently. It combines Gameplay and Roleplay with a bit more of a focus on the former and uses RP just to enhance the idea of the mechanics.

    ShinJin's Librarian's Daughter is a great example of what modern builds are, it's focused pretty heavily on the Roleplaying and Backstory, even takes him a good time to even get into anything that focuses on mechanics, and even then it intertwines the character into the skills really well.

    Now, of course, different builders have different styles. Personally, I tend to play some builds that are almost all RP and others that focus entirely on Gameplay and Mechanics, but this is kind of a good example of the three major 'eras' of what Builds are on our site.

     

    So yeah, it's pretty different to what V1 of the Google Doc was, haven't checked out Version 2, but generally speaking, hope that can show you the difference between what your preparing here and a 'build'. Think of a Build as a Guide to how to play a specific character or archetype. Henson tells us how to play the Hashashin, but that's not really a specific character, it's a playstyle and then people can build their own character around the build. The Librarian's Daughter tells us how to play a character, but it's not like... say telling us the character's backstory and roleplaying and just letting people choose their own skills, weapons and so on, within the rules of the character.

  • Etch
     
    January 23, 2018

    I see. That makes a lot of sense. I think I've established that what I'm making for my character is not a build, but rather a profile. I may make a build later, after I've logged a few hours with her, but I will definitely be making a character profile. What I have now is not a character profile, though. Right now, it's formatted like a Q&A. What my final profile might look like is more like this:

    Kiahni the Khajiit (Or alternative title)

     

    Physical traits

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    And so on....Just so you get what I mean by 'profile'

  • SpookyBorn2021
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    January 23, 2018

    Right, yeah that sounds good. Sorry if I missed a post at some point where you mentioned it being a profile before now.

  • Etch
     
    January 24, 2018

    @Dragonborn1921

    Feel free to drop it! Lol. I'm the type of person that reads the back of cereal boxes for fun, I don't mind reading your post. XD

    To answer your question, though, I'm not 100% sure what you mean by build, as I'm still new to the world of Skyrim roleplay, despite being experienced in other forms of roleplay, although I assume from previous knowledge that you mean the combat build, like what weapons she uses and her tactics for taking down her foes. Going by that definition, I guess you could say it's her build plus, meaning it's her build, but it also includes her personality and history..? I think it's closer to a character profile, but it's by no means official in any way.

    I'm basically answering these handy questions in the form of a google doc. Those questions are actually how I found this site, in fact, when I was looking up Skyrim Roleplay tips on google. XD Anyway, the google doc is very, very unofficial in that it's really just be getting a feel for the character in my head. When I actually post her online, I'll be making it look much nicer. It's kind of a proof-of-concept. It's kinda hard to explain, but I'm perfectly fine with scrapping everything I wrote down there and starting anew, because it's just an idea put on paper, not some fleshed-out character that's ready to be played. Although...I suppose I could play her the way she is, since I went a bit overboard...But, well, I don't plan to. XD

    I'll likely end up completely overhauling her backstory, and while her personality will remain mostly consistent, I might word it a bit better in the final version. 

    Also, I haven't gotten to this part yet in the google docs, but I imagine her being an archer-type who uses a dagger in close-range. Meaning, she shoots arrows until the enemy gets close enough to hit her, then she switches to the dagger and finishes them off.

     

    I think this is the post you missed. And it's fine, don't worry about it. I just thought you didn't understand what I meant by 'profile' because there seem to be varying definitions...XD

  • SpookyBorn2021
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    January 24, 2018

    I think this is the post you missed. And it's fine, don't worry about it. I just thought you didn't understand what I meant by 'profile' because there seem to be varying definitions...XD

    Yeah, pretty much every game or site has a different meaning for just about everything XD But I did read that one, I think I just missed the last line of the first paragraph. Happens more often than I'd like :(

  • Etch
     
    January 24, 2018

    Oh, I see. That's alright.

     

    I'm going to condense some questions I asked earlier on in this thread that haven't been answered yet into one post, for ease of access:

    By the way, I've been keeping an in-game diary using the Take Notes! mod for my characters to help me stay in-character, and was wondering about the whole first person/third person thing and Khajiits. I'm both fascinated and intimidated by the idea of trying to write like a Khajiit, and I've done a fair amount of research to figure out how to write like a Khajiit (This  has been the most useful source.) and I've tried writing a few entries like that just for practice, but it just doesn't feel right. I don't know why, but it feels like it disconnects me from the character in some way, ..? I don't think it'd do that if I was doing it right, though. It's hard to explain. I'd like to learn to do it properly, so if anyone could add some advice or tips the article might not already mention, that'd be helpful. That said, since Kiahni is learning to speak in 1st person, she might decide to write in first person just for the sake of practicing her speech, which could avoid the whole issue entirely, but I also want to learn how to do it for the sake of simply learning. What do you guys recommend? Should I write in 1st person, or third..?

     

    Also, is there a way to add skill points to a character at the start of the game? Her father started to teacher her about Archery as early as seven, and he also taught her a little bit about the dagger. I think she'd at least have filled out some of the skill points by the time she's 21, right? Maybe there's a cheat code..?

  • Etch
     
    January 24, 2018

    Apologies for the double post, but I wanted to say this in a seperate post since it's a pretty big update to the thread. I'm working on version 3 of the google doc, and hopefully I'll have finished the questions in V3 and be able to move on to finalizing it and making it more presentable, as well as describing her physical appearance.

     

    EDIT: I finished Version 3.

     

    Thank heavens I always carry a backup save. dagger.

     

    I'm only feeling a bit sarcastic today. Lol.

  • SpookyBorn2021
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    January 24, 2018

    Apologies for the double post, but I wanted to say this in a seperate post since it's a pretty big update to the thread. I'm working on version 3 of the google doc, and hopefully I'll have finished the questions in V3 and be able to move on to finalizing it and making it more presentable, as well as describing her physical appearance.

    Bah, feel free to triple post if you really feel like it :P With the Workshop there's nothing wrong with updating a dozen times a day as long as all 12 comments are actually substantial (and not just... 'bump' or something along those lines). 

    As for the update, it's pretty interesting. That final section, in particular, was a pretty fun read and was definitely an excellent addition to show off more of her character. Could say that for just about every line though so :P Don't have any particular notes or recommendations or anything like that, just overall the quality has been the same since I began reading. I did like the way you showed off the new changes though, could be very useful.

  • Etch
     
    January 24, 2018

    Thanks. :) The whole changelog thing was mainly for me, since I wanted to see the evolution of my ideas in case I started scrapping major parts of her personality and reconstructing it, and then wanted to revert it back after some thought. It also helps me to generate new ideas when I can look through ideas I've thrown away. Dunno why, I guess it's just that I keep on thinking of new and different ways to fix them. XD

     

    I did think other people might use it, though, in case they liked an old idea better than the new one and wanted to try to convince me of that. Just because I've put a strikethrough on the idea doesn't mean it's gone, or that I'm opposed to reconsidering the idea. So, if anyone sees anything they liked that has a strikethrough on it, just let me know. :)

     

    That said, I figured out the answer to my question above mentioning the skills, as I downloaded a pretty neat mod which basically does that through the MCM window, but I would still like a few opinions on the journal. If you don't know what I'm talking about, look at my second to last post. :)


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