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  • Member
    November 20, 2016

    Spoilers ahoy for "Agents of the Queen"! Ye've been warned!

     -(Dashes so that the spoiler doesn't appear on the front page and/or my profile)

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    So, I definitely want to kill someone off in AotQ Part 19, when Ardolan and co. invade the Heritance headquarters. Problem is, I'm torn between Suhr and Lilinastre. Suhr, because I feel his story arc is complete more or less and he's probably the least important "main" character, or Lilinastre, because she actually is fairly important and her death would really hit Ardolan hard. I'm leaning more towards Suhr biting it than Lili, but I'd still like the opinions of you all. Thoughts?

  • November 20, 2016

    Like you said it yourself, I think it really depends on the emotional impact you're going for, how heavily you intend to have Ardolan's personality shift as a result, and what kind of revenge arc you're setting up for (if any).

  • Member
    November 20, 2016
    Huh. I'll keep that in mind. Thanks, Harrow!
  • Member
    November 26, 2016

    Can I ask why you want to kill someone off? Is it a pressing need to lose a character or do you feel it's time to show some morality? Like Harrow said, whoever you kill off will have an emotional impact on the other chars. 

    It's a case of what you want to achieve.

  • Member
    November 26, 2016

    An interesting question, Sotek. Basically, I want to show that there will be danger in my series- that not everyone will make it out of Ardolan's adventures alive and unscathed. That, and it also creates a situation for Ardolan, who will believe the death- whoever it is- will be on his hands, something he doesn't have a lot of experience with (He's used to friends dying though, due to his role in Varen's Rebellion. Just not under his command).

  • November 26, 2016

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    People die. If they don´t, something´s off. As others stated above, you have to consider the emotional impact of a character dying. Suhr might not be as strong impact as Lili, but on the other hand it will definitely show that heroes don´t always get out without casualties. 

    Everyone is usually looking for a reason to kill a character. How about bad luck? Someone is better? Someone outsmarts them? All these are perfectly valid reasons that add realism. All this can happen anytime, not everyone can survive. Emotional impact isn´t everything. Realism is important too. 

     

  • November 26, 2016

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    Hmm, you sure you wanna deal with both Lilinastre's death and that his lover has vampirism? I dunno, may be a bit rough. How long do you see the emotional impact lasting before there is healing. I'll give an example. Aelberon's parents died in a vampire raid in Dusk, well not really, but we all know the real story. He was despondant for a month while the Thalmor decided his fate. And we're talking despondant. Barely eating, barely drinking, just wasting in his cell, not wanting to go on living. Granted, these were his parents and a large chunk of his village, which he tried to defend but he couldn't. He ended up going on a revenge tale, that well, lol is still happening when we last read of him in Straag Rod. That's over 100 years of revenge. I'm just asking, how prepared are you to address grudges? 

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    November 26, 2016

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    There is the idea of killing a character then have them come back in the later chapters of your story. Though I don't personally recommend it since I prefer the "dead-is-dead" type of characters. 

    You can kill off what you think is the least favorite of your characters, the ones that don't have that many depth in their background or character development. I haven't really went deep into your stories yet, so I can't make suggestions.

    Or... you could just flip a coin and randomly kill someone. That's the best part about realism. You don't know who will die, and sometimes it opens up new plotlines like revenge.

  • Member
    November 27, 2016

    Just thought of something. I'd be kind of fun to roll D&D dice whenever you write a fight scene to decide who dies. Reasons I kill people off: build character developement by showing their thoughts about killing someone or coping with death, move the plot forward (or backwards :-D), or realism, its often hard, but I try to avoid plot armor.

  • Member
    November 27, 2016

    Okay, I posted something!

     

    Warning Huge spoilers for ‘A Dance with Daedra’ (ADWD) ahead

     

    Edit: changed to a link because its very long. My aim is to get some feed back on whether it makes sense and some ideas for the last two arcs.

    Outline (google.doc)

     

     Bonus Spoilers! A chapter about 2/3rds through Arc IV. Warning, contains adult themes and some swearing:

    Duel Part II (google .doc)