Vezrabuto said:
I came up with a few curses of my Own.
Bone Ash Prison: Ash Shell encases my enemy in "Bone Marrow Ash" (or use it on a zombie to make a unkillable punching bag while you heal it ^^).
Decay : Slow Time + Poison Rune stacking
Infernal Grip: Paralyse + Ignite stacks
Death's Target: Marked for death + freeze
It's been a while since I quoted anything, or even quoted for that matter.
I saw your post, got interested and thought I should share a thought or 2.
Now, as a necromancer, you got it mostly nailed down.
Offense:
Offense wise, if you're delving into destruction, the novice spells would fit in lore-wise.
Both traditional RPG and CRPG utilize Ray of Frost, Chilled touch, Burning Hands or Spark touch as cantrips
Since Skyrim by default doesn't utilize cantrips, you can "technically" use Novice destruction spells to emulate touch spells that have a certain range.
Against undead summon, destruction runes are counterproductive, as they hurt your summons.
Undead are only immune to poison, so you'd need to sync that portion with Arniel's Shade, since it's immune to most elemental spells.
Poison rune is fine, only thing is the justification from an RP perspective of getting a build to invest in the magic of life restoration.
Unless of course, that investment is into the wards spell, which increases the AR of the build.
As a necromancer, rp wise, it's better to come via potions and/or vampiric drain, since vampirism is the closest one can come to being a lich in Skyrim.
Crafting
Crafting wise, you cannot take full advantage of both Alchemy and Enchanting, in your playthrough unless you use weapons.. period.
Whilst you can still technically use staves for offense, you'd be limited to potions that provide beneficial effects and stuck to only the recharging mechanics for enchanting. No offensive status effects can be applied directly by you (ie: Poisons/Fire/frost/Shock effects via weapons).
Also, you lose the ability to utilize poisons that can be used to heal your undead summons, since there is no method to deliver said poison.
Support
Support wise, Necro Thralls are a waste. Your main mechanic as a necromancer deals with dead bodies and souls.
Unless you do not mind utilizing soul cairn summons, your opener would always be a destruction spell to generate the dead bodies needed for support.
Also, if you have the Dragonborn expansion (which you really should have by now), you can weaponize the corpse with Azidal's ring of necromancy.
In fact, here's a thought.. try encasing your raise zombie with an ash spell, whilst under the effects of the ring.
Whilst I've not tested it, it's something that might potentially work.
The idea is to generate dead bodies as you encounter enemies... In this case, soul cairn summons can always be an opener.
and oh yeah, you have an undead dragon... which counts as a summon, though it in itself generates 3 other minions to help you out... counts for something I suppose.
Protection
Given that you've mentioned no armor in this idea, I'm assuming you're taking the mage armor perks in the alteration tree and work your way up to stability
Avoid the atronach perk, as there is a chance for your summons to backfire and absorbed.
As mentioned earlier, aside form the max of 300 achieved via mage armor + ebonyflesh, ward spells are your only way of possibly raising restoration skills.
Becoming a vampire lord would provide access to the heal undead spells, which would prove useful in keeping your summons alive longer.
Curses
The only feedback I can help provide is to explore the necromancer class of other games for inspiration.
On the surface, I think it's much better to utilize the following:
Mark for Death + Poison Rune + Paralysis.
Ignite stack + Freeze + Poison of Slow
or a combination of the above:
Mark for Death + Poison Rune + Freeze + Ignite Stack
Your choice on this one mate, but i'm sure you'll come up with more inventive ideas... just take a closer look at your poisons.
Hope this helps.
[blockquote][b][url=/profile/Vezrabuto]Vezrabuto[/url] said:[/b]
I came up with a few curses of my Own.
Bone Ash Prison: Ash Shell encases my enemy in "Bone Marrow Ash" (or use it on a zombie to make a unkillable punching bag while you heal it ^^).
Decay : Slow Time + Poison Rune stacking
Infernal Grip: Paralyse + Ignite stacks
Death's Target: Marked for death + freeze
[/blockquote]
It's been a while since I quoted anything, or even quoted for that matter.
I saw your post, got interested and thought I should share a thought or 2.
Now, as a necromancer, you got it mostly nailed down.
Offense:
Offense wise, if you're delving into destruction, the novice spells would fit in lore-wise.
Both traditional RPG and CRPG utilize Ray of Frost, Chilled touch, Burning Hands or Spark touch as cantrips
Since Skyrim by default doesn't utilize cantrips, you can "technically" use Novice destruction spells to emulate touch spells that have a certain range.
Against undead summon, destruction runes are counterproductive, as they hurt your summons.
Undead are only immune to poison, so you'd need to sync that portion with Arniel's Shade, since it's immune to most elemental spells.
Poison rune is fine, only thing is the justification from an RP perspective of getting a build to invest in the magic of life restoration.
Unless of course, that investment is into the wards spell, which increases the AR of the build.
As a necromancer, rp wise, it's better to come via potions and/or vampiric drain, since vampirism is the closest one can come to being a lich in Skyrim.
Crafting
Crafting wise, you cannot take full advantage of both Alchemy and Enchanting, in your playthrough unless you use weapons.. period.
Whilst you can still technically use staves for offense, you'd be limited to potions that provide beneficial effects and stuck to only the recharging mechanics for enchanting. No offensive status effects can be applied directly by you (ie: Poisons/Fire/frost/Shock effects via weapons).
Also, you lose the ability to utilize poisons that can be used to heal your undead summons, since there is no method to deliver said poison.
Support
Support wise, Necro Thralls are a waste. Your main mechanic as a necromancer deals with dead bodies and souls.
Unless you do not mind utilizing soul cairn summons, your opener would always be a destruction spell to generate the dead bodies needed for support.
Also, if you have the Dragonborn expansion (which you really should have by now), you can weaponize the corpse with Azidal's ring of necromancy.
In fact, here's a thought.. try encasing your raise zombie with an ash spell, whilst under the effects of the ring.
Whilst I've not tested it, it's something that might potentially work.
The idea is to generate dead bodies as you encounter enemies... In this case, soul cairn summons can always be an opener.
and oh yeah, you have an undead dragon... which counts as a summon, though it in itself generates 3 other minions to help you out... counts for something I suppose.
Protection
Given that you've mentioned no armor in this idea, I'm assuming you're taking the mage armor perks in the alteration tree and work your way up to stability
Avoid the atronach perk, as there is a chance for your summons to backfire and absorbed.
As mentioned earlier, aside form the max of 300 achieved via mage armor + ebonyflesh, ward spells are your only way of possibly raising restoration skills.
Becoming a vampire lord would provide access to the heal undead spells, which would prove useful in keeping your summons alive longer.
Curses
The only feedback I can help provide is to explore the necromancer class of other games for inspiration.
On the surface, I think it's much better to utilize the following:
Mark for Death + Poison Rune + Paralysis.
Ignite stack + Freeze + Poison of Slow
or a combination of the above:
Mark for Death + Poison Rune + Freeze + Ignite Stack
Your choice on this one mate, but i'm sure you'll come up with more inventive ideas... just take a closer look at your poisons.
Hope this helps.
