Nemesis is freaking awesome too if you want more magic. Sometimes I just like sneaking around fury'ing people :) Plus going in for meele wearing cloth is always lols.

I just started a new nemesis playthru using forgotten magic redone (lots of wow like spells, incredible scripting)

So I'm confused, do you join the Volkihar in the dawnguard DLC and become a Vampire later or do you get sanguine vampiris whilst in the dawnguard or what? :P

ahhhh i see, sorry about that, only just came across it, how would you go about it now? I've always liked the idea of a good Vampire Character and i've found out you can be a vampire lord, after doing the dawnguard questline

I'm wondering if it's possible to be a vanilla vampire, and in the dawnguard 

Damned bethesda making me think -.-

Vanilla vampires can join the Dawnguard and make a few quests, but at some point you will have to get your vampirism cured to keep going.

Thats a pain in the ass -.- but understandable 

Hey mason, found out where i got confused with the dates, your build was written may 12th, TZ only put the video of it up this year, thats where my confusion came from