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• Lozhar

  

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  October 17, 2013 2:36 PM EDT

  The dragonborn is powerful.
  He has dragon allies,he defeated alduin,killed miraak and harkon,and smashed the rebellion
  he is a master of the thu'um and a powerful warrior
  if the dragonborn join the fight against the thalmor,the empire have a chance of victory? because the imperial army will be helped by dragons and a warrior with the power of the voice and gifts given to him by hermaeus mora himself!
  but i don't know the power of the dominion,they can win the war even if the dragonborn fight?
• NeroKitty

  

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  October 17, 2013 2:41 PM EDT

  Nice assumptions, but I don't think it'd take the fight to them. I think it'd be more worried about Tosh Raka.

  Fix your errors dude. That is kinda hard on the eyes.

• Lozhar

  

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  October 17, 2013 2:47 PM EDT

  Sorry for the mistakes,but i don't know if i can edit the post in my phone
• NeroKitty

  

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  October 17, 2013 2:49 PM EDT

  yea... Just wait til you get home.

• RuneRed

  

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  October 17, 2013 3:30 PM EDT

  My dragonborn did not choose a side in the civil war. Another person's dragon born may have helped the stormcloaks. So your first statement is not (necessarily) correct. Another point is that the dragon born may very well, for example, be an altmer and decide to ally with the aldmeri dominion - there is no canon race for the dragon born.

  But I think whichever side that the dragon born is on, will benefit from a powerful ally - and he, or she, may be strong enough to tip the balance.

• Lozhar

  

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  October 17, 2013 3:51 PM EDT

  I forgot to mention that i am talking about a paladin-like dragonborn
• NeroKitty

  

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  October 17, 2013 3:55 PM EDT

  Just say that this is one of those "what if" scenarios so that people dont post comments that contradict your OP.

• Casey

  

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  October 17, 2013 6:39 PM EDT

  Interesting, lol. I'd atleast say that Dragonborn & friends would make a hell of a front line. The -potential- of the ''canon'' dragonborn and his powers/followers is endless, and we don't know exactly how the Dominion operates in open warfare, BUT I imagine given nobody was "Essential", alot of Dragonborns could decimate entire provinces effortlessly with the variety of powers acquired by game & dlc completion. Add in amulet stacking, endless undead armies, and nearly every Daedric Lord naming you his champion... No way. But I imagine the next game will have a way lame lore on the Dominion's fall, with dragonborn having little direct epic influence
• Lozhar

  

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  October 17, 2013 7:15 PM EDT

  But the dragonborn would't be powerful as seen in the game,a axe to the head or a arrow throught the heart and you are dead.
  and...maybe the dominion win
• Deleted Member

  
   

  October 17, 2013 7:17 PM EDT

  He's just one person. So close to a god, yet still a man. 

• RuneRed

  

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  October 17, 2013 7:30 PM EDT

  With his shouts, killing him would be very difficult - remember we're talking a fantasy universe with magic, artifacts, divine blessing, etc.  Strafing attacks from summoned dragons, Slow time (to catch arrows, attack and dodge), Become Ethereal (immunity to all damage), Unrelenting Force (knocking down ranks of the enemy), just to name a few abilities.

  To penetrate his armor, the weapon would have to be made out of similar or better material (in reality, you're not going to penetrate steel armor with iron arrows, for example).- good luck in outfitting an army with dragon or daedric.

  Just one person, yes, but with the powers of a dragon (and possibly more depending if he or she is a master thief/assassin/mage, werewolf/vampire, etc.).  He or she would definitely greatly tip the balance of any battle.

• Deleted Member

  
   

  October 17, 2013 7:32 PM EDT

  If the force of the iron arrow hitting the armor was sufficient enough, you can pierce steel.  just sayin. 

• RuneRed

  

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  October 17, 2013 7:59 PM EDT

  It would probably just bend the arrowhead or break the arrow - but in any case, the force wouldn't be sufficient enough to penetrate enough to cause damage, at any realistic range - maybe not even point blank. Most soldiers in steel plate armor (not mail) did not fear arrows. Numerous sources, but here's one, (although I admit the subject is often under debate). just saying.

   

• Deleted Member

  
   

  October 17, 2013 8:10 PM EDT

  Fight me.  And, This forum about draw weight of composite and long bows. The first guy makes contradictory statements, and the rest is about draw weight. Depending on the thickness of the armor, the arrow can penetrate. Why you always starting something? 

• Lozhar

  

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  October 17, 2013 8:10 PM EDT

  The aldmeri dominion use mainly elven weaponry

  one iron arrow cannot pierce steel,but maybe a elven one can.

• Deleted Member

  
   

  October 17, 2013 8:25 PM EDT

  Elven arrows are pretty penetrating. 

• Lozhar

  

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  October 17, 2013 8:33 PM EDT

  And at higher levels they start wearing glass armor and using glass weapons
  a glass arrow can easily pierce steel

• Deleted Member

  
   

  October 17, 2013 8:38 PM EDT

  Yeah, but glass is also expensive. Only the elite, or people who supply their own stuff, like mercs, will have that. The AD isn't going to outfit every soldier with that stuff. 

• RuneRed

  

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  October 17, 2013 8:44 PM EDT

  I'm not starting anything - actually you started it by disagreeing with my statement (one sentence about arrows and armor - my  point was that the dovakiin would have superior equipment over most soldiers). The general consensus of most historians is that arrows did not penetrate late period plate armor, but it may, in some cases may penetrate mail. I've read many articles on the subject (that was just a discussion, yet a good one - I thought you might be interested). Although, I did admit, the subject is often under debate.

  And challenge accepted, unarmed (we both have padded gloves) - anytime you want. We split the rental price if we choose to have it in a controlled environment.

  And by the way, we are way off topic now - the discussion is whether the dovakiin would turn the tide of the war against the Dominion, not arrows and armor.

• Lozhar

  

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  October 17, 2013 8:44 PM EDT

  but one arrow can kill the dragonborn

  and if the soldier is using glass weapons and armors,he is better trained than the ones in elven

  the altmers are know for being powerful mages,the armor and the shield of the dragonborn will not protect against magic

  thalmors can summon dremoras?

  because two angry dremoras with weapons of daedric quality can be a challenge

• RuneRed

  

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  October 17, 2013 8:46 PM EDT

  In any case, 'Slow Time' or 'Become Ethereal' fairly much makes arrows useless. All I'm saying that a 'fantasy warrior' like the dovakiin won't be so easily killed. (and we are talking fantasy if we're talking elven+ arrows).

  What? Is everyone saying that  the dovakiin wouldn't sway the battle??

• Deleted Member

  
   

  October 17, 2013 8:46 PM EDT

  the island in the river. sunset. if no one dies by the time the sun goes behind the horizon, it's a draw. 

• Deleted Member

  
   

  October 17, 2013 8:48 PM EDT

  Would that be a reference to Smaug the Terrible?

• Lozhar

  

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  October 17, 2013 8:51 PM EDT

  who?

• Deleted Member

  
   

  October 17, 2013 8:53 PM EDT

  he's still just a man. though, almost touching godhood