How had things turned out like this? Sure, maybe slipping away from home in the middle of the night and then crossing the border wasn’t the greatest idea, but she couldn’t have predicted the Imperials would be there. She’d been hoping that her grandparents could help her, but now they and all of Helgen were gone. Now she was a fugitive and all she could think to do was pray to Kyne for some sign, any sign that things would be alright.
Golden FoolThe difficulty with trusting a single source in TES; in this case that guy you mentioned in Oblivion, is that in so many cases there will be contradictions to something even in the same game. Do you remember which character it was? It's hard to discuss wh... moreThe difficulty with trusting a single source in TES; in this case that guy you mentioned in Oblivion, is that in so many cases there will be contradictions to something even in the same game. Do you remember which character it was? It's hard to discuss what he says without know exactly what he said. Anyway, it's likely that some Nords did worship the Nine but not to the "correct" degree in this guy's eyes. I highly doubt that parts of Skyrim weren't already following the Nine at the time of Oblivion, would it have been the whole province? No, but those who had the most interaction with the Imperials would have been influenced.
You mentioned that the Empire would have had other things to focus on following the Crisis, but the religious fanatics on the other had; who had just been shown proof that their gods were "real", could have pushed harder with spreading their faith. If this was the case they could have had Ulfric championing the actual ancient Nordic traditions which were being replace... less
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Justiciar ThorienI don't remember his name, need to search. I'm sure some Nords did worship the Imp gods, especially the nobles and city folks. But it's really unnatural to see people's original culture so completely erased from memory. I mean, look at RL people. They hav... moreI don't remember his name, need to search. I'm sure some Nords did worship the Imp gods, especially the nobles and city folks. But it's really unnatural to see people's original culture so completely erased from memory. I mean, look at RL people. They have been Cristians for centuries, but they still remember their old cultures mostly.
February 4, 2019
Golden FoolWell yes it's unnatural for willing allies; which the Nords seem to be for the most part, to have lost so much of their culture in such a short time. People who have been forcibly subjugated tend to lose it fairly quickly as the people in power work towar... moreWell yes it's unnatural for willing allies; which the Nords seem to be for the most part, to have lost so much of their culture in such a short time. People who have been forcibly subjugated tend to lose it fairly quickly as the people in power work towards eliminating any links to maintain their position of power.
You mentioned the city folk, how many named npcs do we see outside of the major cities? How many of those npcs bring up their gods? There are entire Nordic Clans we never encounter in Skyrim, so it is possible that they are still out there worshiping the Nord gods away from the cities and the Imp influence. less
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Justiciar ThorienEven those who have been forcibly subjugated retain something. You can't strip people of their culture that easily. You can outlaw some elements of it, but something will still remain. A thing like what we see with Nords can only happen when people themse... moreEven those who have been forcibly subjugated retain something. You can't strip people of their culture that easily. You can outlaw some elements of it, but something will still remain. A thing like what we see with Nords can only happen when people themselves do it.
We don't even need to see named NPCs. We see shrines out in the wild, all sorts of camps and small settlements. Have you seen sny signs of people worshipping the old pantheon? There might be some people like Froki, but they are most likely old.
We don't see much Imp influence in Windhelm and Winterhold, nor in the smaller settlements, yet no one there worships old gods. Big clans most likely have their ties to the Jarls and all sorts of business connections, so they are most likely to get influenced. less